Are Service Dogs Allowed In Rv Parks

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I am kind of curious. One of my reviews was non posted / allowed because we had not actually stayed at the park. The reason nosotros had not stayed at the park was because of our pets and the owners' views on them.
We have a pair of big (service brute) dogs, Labrador cantankerous. We made reservations at this park. When we arrived the owner met us at our motorhome and asked to see the dogs prior to allowing us in the park. Now this is a "membership" park, and according to their advertising they are a pet friendly park, no breed restrictions.

Long story brusk she determined one of our dogs was an aggressive breed animal, demanded to encounter our service animal paperwork (which is against ADA), and then rudely told u.s.a. it would exist $5 per day per canis familiaris IF nosotros stayed as that "people with service animals are lazy, and practice not make clean up later their dogs".

We left. We never fabricated information technology past the front gate because nosotros knew this was gonna be a hellish stay if nosotros choose to bend to her will.

At present when I submitted this review, it was rejected because nosotros hadn't actually stayed at this park; although in that location are other reviews of this parks from people who had experienced similar issues. As a pet owner I WANT to know IF I am going to see a problem Earlier I arrive or make reservations. Am I the only one? ? ? But a little curious...
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I realize your mail service is asking well-nigh if yous will have trouble taking our dogs into RV parks. However, I would like to make a clarification. I looked up the deferral you mentioned. While nosotros prefer that reviewers really stay at a park in order to accurately determine what information technology is like, your review was not deferred because you lot did not stay there. The problem was that you did not give any data almost the park. You even stated that you never made information technology past the gates. There was no mention of its overall advent, what the sites were like, if the utilities were placed conveniently and worked well, or what amenities were available. While we understand the importance of being able to take your dogs with you into a park, this is not the chief information that many readers are looking for. If you had included a description of the park, your review probably would have been accepted.
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That comment nigh disabled people beingness lazy is only....sad. I'm and then sorry you had to go through that.
But curious though, how did you get ADA docs for two dogs?
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QUOTE(GandJ @ October 8 2012, 02:18 PM) [snapback]31462[/snapback]
Just curious though, how did you get ADA docs for two dogs?

First allow me clarify, ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) does NOT "give" you lot paperwork. It is merely the government legislation that allows prescribed animals exception from the "pet" policies and stipulations many places have. As for what is required and not required, any computer literate person can observe it online, as well any lawyer can provide a person a copy of it.

My hubby and I each have unlike medical weather requiring different preparation for the animals. As such after receiving prescriptions from our doctors, we visited our local human gild to choice out our animals. As my hubby is a Disabled Vet, the VA trained his animal for gratis. Mine on the other hand was trained through a mental health programme. Both animals are required for our daily life.

Thus nosotros conduct both their original prescriptions and their Companion Animal registration with us. However ADA makes it very very clear this is non required and against said law for someone to ask for it.

I hope that helps....
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QUOTE(Texasrvers @ October eight 2012, 02:05 PM) [snapback]31461[/snapback]
I realize your mail service is request about if you will have trouble taking our dogs into RV parks. Withal, I would like to make a clarification. I looked up the deferral you mentioned. While we prefer that reviewers actually stay at a park in club to accurately make up one's mind what it is similar, your review was non deferred because you did non stay there. The problem was that you did not requite any data nigh the park. You fifty-fifty stated that you never made information technology past the gates. There was no mention of its overall appearance, what the sites were similar, if the utilities were placed conveniently and worked well, or what amenities were available. While we understand the importance of existence able to take your dogs with you into a park, this is not the main information that many readers are looking for. If you lot had included a description of the park, your review probably would accept been accepted.

Equally copied and pasted from the email I received apropos this review -

Comments specific to your review:
Deplorable, but fifty-fifty if you do not stay at a park, your review needs to tell nearly the park and the services and amenities offered there. It is unlikely that other RVers will come across the same trouble that you lot did, and and so they want to know what the sites and other areas of the park are like.

I also stated in the beginning of this postal service likewise as in the review - nosotros did NOT stay at this park and WHY.... Thus you defending your decision for not posting it is truly a moot bespeak... We did NOT stay there because of the Possessor / MANAGEMENTS rude attitude toward us and or our Pets..... If they Do Non wish to exist bothered past pets they NEED to alter their advertisement to state every bit much....

I was simply asking IF this was / would be a concern for others on their trips.... Non debating why the review was not posted...
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Copied and pasted from this park's reviews... Nosotros were NOT the first who did Not stay here because of the owner's attitude...
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Nosotros did not stay hither subsequently coming together the owner, who was very arrogant, rude and treat u.s. similar nosotros were third rate people. I practise not like to say that almost people but this time I have also. I volition warn anyone looking to stay there, to exist far warned in advance near this camp this campground and it's owners. We camped here in a Motorhome.
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OK, you accept tried to make your point over again, so I volition, also.
In your OP you stated that your review was deferred because you did not actually stay at the park. I wanted to clarify that the reason it was deferred was considering it did not incorporate information about the park. You lot do non accept to stay at a park in society to submit a review, but you lot do accept to tell what the park is like, and that is exactly what the admin explained to you in the e-mail you lot received.

Every bit for the second review yous quoted, it does not appear it follows our guidelines either and probably should accept been deferred likewise--not because they didn't stay, only because there is no information most the park. However, each private review is a judgement call, and some of the admins are more lenient than others. I guess your review was but washed by the strict, mean one.
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Y'all cannot exist denied admission anywhere except areas where sterile weather condition are required, and the public is non mostly allowed (such as a eating place kitchen, an operating room or other special areas of a hospital etc.) because of a true "service animate being" . A service animal is defined equally being necessary to assist an individual for a specific condition. A "therapy canis familiaris is not a service brute and therapy dogs exercise not have whatsoever ADA protections. A business may enquire what the beast is trained to exercise and may ask if the animal is required to assistance the individual. If y'all lie, you are breaking federal police, though there is really no mechanism in identify to actually verify whatever claim. There is an endeavour to become the ADA modified to require actual certification and documentation since there are many individuals who claim ADA exemptions as a ruse to go their pets into places they would otherwise be prohibited from entering. The park may deny you access if they deny others for reasons not related to the service animal, such as an age restriction on your rig, or in the case of a membership park, if you are not a fellow member. Equally an aside, at that place is no legal protection from them making your stay a living hell if they wanted to. They could spotter your every move and if you lot didn't clean up after your dog, or the canis familiaris exhibited even a hint of agressive behaviour they could kicking y'all out.
While your situation is serious, I can understand the reluctance of the website to not let reviews where people do not visit. It would be unfair to people using the ratings if they became over-run with reviews that only quote why they didn't stay in that location. What expert would a string of low ratings practise anyone if all they said what "we didn't stay here because the other park in the area was cheaper, had more channels on the cablevision TV, had a meliorate looking sign, etc. Your review is truly in a gray expanse, and I could see the website moderators going either way on it.
If information technology happened the way you described, yous really should contact an advocate for the disabled in the area of the park and have them investigated or perhaps even contact an attorney for the disabled and sue them, they were in clear violation of the constabulary.
Finally, yous volition be better served if you never refer to your service dogs every bit pets. It just makes information technology sound like you lot are trying to use the law to take fluffy with you lot, not because the dog is required due to a handicap.
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QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Oct viii 2012, 04:57 PM) [snapback]31470[/snapback]
You cannot be denied access anywhere except areas where sterile weather condition are required, and the public is not generally immune (such as a eatery kitchen, an operating room or other special areas of a hospital etc.) because of a true "service animal" . A service animal is divers as being necessary to help an individual for a specific condition. A "therapy dog is not a service animal and therapy dogs practice not have any ADA protections. A business may enquire what the beast is trained to do and may ask if the animal is required to assistance the private. If y'all lie, you are breaking federal constabulary, though at that place is actually no mechanism in identify to actually verify any merits. There is an effort to get the ADA modified to require bodily certification and documentation since there are many individuals who merits ADA exemptions as a ruse to get their pets into places they would otherwise be prohibited from entering. The park may deny you access if they deny others for reasons not related to the service animal, such as an historic period restriction on your rig, or in the case of a membership park, if yous are not a member. Every bit an aside, in that location is no legal protection from them making your stay a living hell if they wanted to. They could watch your every motion and if you didn't clean upwardly after your dog, or the canis familiaris exhibited fifty-fifty a hint of agressive behaviour they could kick y'all out.
While your situation is serious, I can understand the reluctance of the website to not allow reviews where people do non visit. It would exist unfair to people using the ratings if they became over-run with reviews that only quote why they didn't stay there. What good would a string of low ratings exercise anyone if all they said what "we didn't stay here because the other park in the area was cheaper, had more channels on the cablevision TV, had a better looking sign, etc. Your review is truly in a gray area, and I could see the website moderators going either way on it.
If information technology happened the way you lot described, you really should contact an advocate for the disabled in the area of the park and have them investigated or possibly even contact an attorney for the disabled and sue them, they were in clear violation of the law.
Finally, y'all will be better served if you never refer to your service dogs every bit pets. It just makes it sound like you are trying to apply the law to have fluffy with y'all, not considering the canis familiaris is required due to a handicap.

Where shall I begin -

"therapy dogs do not take any ADA protections." - Actually they practice and at that place have been a number of lawsuits filed in Federal Court with regards to this issue. One major one under recent consideration is that of a Pupil in a major Higher who attempted suicide subsequently existence denied her prescribed, registered SERVICE fauna.

" require actual certification and documentation - An individual with a service animal has both a DOCTORS prescription, training documentation, etc... It does Non say documentation is NOT required, it states They cannot Crave you to provide proof said documentation. Because nosotros have ran into this event, we keep our proof with u.s.a. at all times because it stops the harassment.

" A business organization may ask what the animal is trained to do and may enquire if the animal is required to assist the private. " - Again sadly you lot are mistaken, they can not ask you lot for this data. If they are a consumer based business organization they tin not ask you for any paperwork, documentation, etc. Once more in that location are a number of lawsuits documenting this.

"the canis familiaris exhibited even a hint of agressive behaviour they could boot you out. " - i truly wish I could document how many fourth dimension I have been "attacked" by a "little" canis familiaris and people only shrugged it off. Regardless of an animals size, if it shows ambitious behavior (note correct spelling) it needs to be removed. Not just the people would would rather have a real dog.

" perhaps even contact an chaser for the disabled and sue them, " - This is EXACTLY what is wrong with today's club. Everyone is SUE happy. If you don't give me what I want, I'll just sue y'all. Whatever... I would rather post a bad review and sentinel their business go under via give-and-take of mouth, it does A LOT more than damage than suing them. They would merely settle out of court, slap a gag order on me, and no ane would be any wiser.

" yous volition be ameliorate served if you never refer to your service dogs as pets." - They ARE our pets, They are our daily reminders of why, what, etc. They give the states a reason if not a shoulder to get up in the morning. To identify them on the level of nothing more than an "employee" with no feelings is cold hearted and I turn down to do that to them. They are our 4 legged children.

This post was not about side stepping laws, or having a review posted... It was to enquire how other RV'ers felt about having their reservations, stay, etc turn into a nightmare considering of their "pets"........
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QUOTE(Full-Timer RV'er @ Oct 8 2012, 04:16 PM) [snapback]31471[/snapback]
Where shall I begin -

"therapy dogs practise not have whatever ADA protections." - Actually they do and there have been a number of lawsuits filed in Federal Court with regards to this upshot. Ane major one under contempo consideration is that of a Educatee in a major Higher who attempted suicide subsequently beingness denied her prescribed, registered SERVICE animal.

" require actual certification and documentation - An private with a service brute has both a DOCTORS prescription, preparation documentation, etc... It does NOT say documentation is NOT required, it states They cannot Require yous to provide proof said documentation. Because nosotros have ran into this issue, we keep our proof with us at all times because it stops the harassment.

" A business concern may ask what the creature is trained to do and may ask if the animal is required to assist the private. " - Again sadly you are mistaken, they can not enquire y'all for this information. If they are a consumer based concern they tin can not ask y'all for any paperwork, documentation, etc. Once more at that place are a number of lawsuits documenting this.
"the dog exhibited even a hint of agressive behaviour they could kick you out. " - i truly wish I could certificate how many time I accept been "attacked" past a "little" canis familiaris and people just shrugged information technology off. Regardless of an animals size, if it shows ambitious behavior (notation correct spelling) it needs to exist removed. Not just the people would would rather have a real dog.

" perhaps fifty-fifty contact an attorney for the disabled and sue them, " - This is EXACTLY what is incorrect with today'south lodge. Everyone is SUE happy. If you don't give me what I desire, I'll merely sue y'all. Any... I would rather post a bad review and watch their business organization go under via give-and-take of mouth, it does A LOT more damage than suing them. They would just settle out of courtroom, slap a gag club on me, and no 1 would be whatsoever wiser.

" you will be better served if you never refer to your service dogs as pets." - They ARE our pets, They are our daily reminders of why, what, etc. They give us a reason if not a shoulder to go up in the morning. To place them on the level of nothing more than an "employee" with no feelings is cold hearted and I refuse to do that to them. They are our four legged children.

This post was not about side stepping laws, or having a review posted... It was to ask how other RV'ers felt about having their reservations, stay, etc turn into a nightmare because of their "pets"........

You need to revisit the ADA compliance laws, The constabulary specifically states that
merely service dogs (or minature horses) are covered by the electric current ADA regulations. A business CAN ask what the service animal is trained to do, and CAN ask if the service animal is required by the possessor. A simple internet search volition ostend those statements.
Since you evidently don't know the ADA laws, and you lot were very rude in pointing out a small-scale spelling fault, I am now convinced the problem y'all had with the RV park was at least in part instigated and escalated by you lot. As for hiring a lawyer or consulting a disability advocate, it would benefit all disabled persons if a business that acted in such wanton disregard to the law was taken to task. Lawsuits are not e'er about greed. Finally, fifty-fifty the US department of Justice, on their ADA FAQ specifically states "A service brute is not a pet."
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QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Oct 8 2012, 06:11 PM) [snapback]31473[/snapback]
You need to brush up on your ADA compliance. For instance "therapy dogs" are not protected, just service dogs (or minature horses) are covered by the current ADA regulations. A business CAN enquire what the service animal is trained to exercise, and Can ask if the service animal is required by the owner. A unproblematic internet search will confirm those statements.
Since you plainly don't know the ADA laws, and yous were very rude in pointing out a minor spelling mistake, I am now convinced the problem you had with the RV park was at to the lowest degree in office instigated and escalated by you. As for hiring a lawyer or consulting a disability advocate, it would benefit all disabled persons if a business that acted in such wanton disregard to the police was taken to task. Lawsuits are not e'er about greed.

I gauge then the ADA information we were given by the Veteran's Administration and ALL of my years of law research was incorrect. I am just some other loser attempting to manipulate the system to get what I want, and this situation NEVER happened because I decline to sue.

BTW if you lot had bothered to correct click on the words with red under lining, I would not have had to point out your spelling errors. Mayhap in your rush to point out how rude and wrong I am, yous forgot to prove little of your restraint.

And IF this park didn't already have one review here, and numerous others posted on other various websites with regards to this problem, I may fifty-fifty concord with you. As I can be a little rough effectually the edges and very much an in your face up blazon person. Yet, I was the ane who walked away from this situation, my hubby (AN AMERICAN VETERAN) was not inclined to practise then. Thus maybe y'all are just a lot bit bent because as a NEWBIE I exercise know a thing or 2 and am not some old ignorant coot who has nothing better to do than rag on people all day.....
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QUOTE(Full-Timer RV'er @ Oct 8 2012, 05:26 PM) [snapback]31474[/snapback]
And IF this park didn't already have one review here, and numerous others posted on other various websites with regards to this problem, I may even hold with you. Every bit I tin can be a little rough effectually the edges

If yous had already read bad reviews of the identify, why did you nevertheless go? Wouldn't near people take that as a crimson flag and stay away?

And, please, can nosotros be a little nicer here? There'due south actually no demand to plow this into a personal attack simply because someone happens to disagree.

Thanks for the clarification ref the second dog. I simply asked because I know of someone that was trying to get his landlord to accept his girlfriend'southward dog equally his 2d ADA dog when she moved into his no-pets-allowed edifice.
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QUOTE(Full-Timer RV'er @ Oct 8 2012, 05:26 PM) [snapback]31474[/snapback]
I guess then the ADA information nosotros were given by the Veteran's Administration and ALL of my years of police force research was incorrect. I am only another loser attempting to manipulate the system to get what I desire, and this situation NEVER happened because I refuse to sue.

BTW if y'all had bothered to right click on the words with cerise under lining, I would not have had to point out your spelling errors. Perhaps in your rush to point out how rude and wrong I am, you forgot to evidence little of your restraint.

And IF this park didn't already have 1 review here, and numerous others posted on other various websites with regards to this trouble, I may even concord with you. Every bit I can be a footling rough around the edges and very much an in your face type person. However, I was the one who walked away from this state of affairs, my hubby (AN AMERICAN VETERAN) was non inclined to exercise so. Thus maybe yous are just a lot bit bent because as a NEWBIE I do know a thing or two and am not some old ignorant coot who has naught better to practice than rag on people all day.....

If what y'all posted was what yous were told by the Veteran's Assistants and what you constitute from your years of police research, information technology was incorrect. Here is the link the the U.s. department of Justice'due south ADA data on Service Animals: www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
If you have the time to await at the information, you will discover my post was factually right, spelling be darned. BTW, since you posted effectually noon, twice in the 2pm 60 minutes, once in the 3pm hour, then in the 4pm hr and finally in the 5pm hour, it kind of does appear you take nothing better to do than rag on people all day. And what, exactly, do you promise to accomplish by pointing out your husband is an American Veteran? Is that supposed to brand him better than the rest of us?
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QUOTE(GandJ @ October 8 2012, 08:39 PM) [snapback]31478[/snapback]
If you had already read bad reviews of the identify, why did y'all however go? Wouldn't about people take that every bit a carmine flag and stay away?

And, delight, tin can we be a little nicer here? There's actually no need to turn this into a personal assail simply because someone happens to disagree.

Thanks for the description ref the 2d canis familiaris. I only asked because I know of someone that was trying to become his landlord to accept his girlfriend's canis familiaris equally his 2nd ADA dog when she moved into his no-pets-allowed building.

We had not seen the reviews on this site, or the others until subsequently. Trust me if we had we would not accept fabricated reservations there. It has been one of the very valuable lessons nosotros accept learned. Now before making reservations we do check various reviewing sites to make certain it does non happen again. Checking reviews and Google Earth have become stand operating procedures prior to making any reservations.

Your friend'due south girlfriend would need to be evaluated and have the brute prescribed. Each Land has unlike laws in addition to the ADA mandate. Although yous are correct you lot may only have i animal per prescription.
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QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ October 8 2012, 10:thirty PM) [snapback]31483[/snapback]
If what you posted was what you lot were told past the Veteran'southward Assistants and what you found from your years of constabulary research, it was incorrect. Here is the link the the The states department of Justice's ADA information on Service Animals: www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
If y'all take the time to look at the information, yous will detect my post was factually correct, spelling be darned. BTW, since yous posted around apex, twice in the 2pm hour, once in the 3pm hour, and so in the 4pm hr and finally in the 5pm hour, it kind of does appear y'all take nothing amend to do than rag on people all 24-hour interval. And what, exactly, do you hope to accomplish by pointing out your hubby is an American Veteran? Is that supposed to make him better than the rest of us?

From your posted link

Service animals are divers as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deafened, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, non pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must exist directly related to the person's disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do non qualify equally service animals under the ADA.

Some State and local laws also define service animal more broadly than the ADA does. Information about such laws can be obtained from the State attorney full general's office

Although very informative it does not quote whatever cases earlier the courts with regards to these problems which is exactly what I did....

To me ALL VETERANS are amend people than the average US citizen. They gave up a lot more than nosotros will e'er understand. Some of them besides have some inappropriate behaviors towards certain situations considering for their training, thus requiring a dissimilar than "normal" tactic in handling.

Some days I take more "down time" than others due to medical atmospheric condition. Today happened to be ane of those... Tomorrow may be a different story... Hows your health, perfect I imagine.....
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When information technology is non obvious what service an fauna provides, only limited inquiries are allowed. Staff may inquire two questions: (ane) is the dog a service brute required because of a disability, and (two) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform. Staff cannot ask about the person's disability, require medical documentation, require a special identification card or training documentation for the dog, or ask that the canis familiaris demonstrate its ability to perform the work or task
ADA Service Animals

Promise this helps for those who are a bit lost when it comes to EXACTLY what a service animal is... Although it classifies them every bit NOT a pet, well-nigh owners volition refer to them as PETS because like us they do Non wish to classify them equally a bottom of import beast....
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QUOTE(Full-Timer RV'er @ Oct eight 2012, 10:32 PM) [snapback]31485[/snapback]
From your posted link

Service animals are divers as dogs that are individually trained to do piece of work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such piece of work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deaf, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, non pets. The piece of work or chore a dog has been trained to provide must exist directly related to the person'southward inability. Dogs whose sole role is to provide comfort or emotional back up do not authorize equally service animals under the ADA.

Some Country and local laws as well ascertain service beast more broadly than the ADA does. Information about such laws can be obtained from the State attorney general'due south office

Although very informative it does not quote any cases before the courts with regards to these issues which is exactly what I did....

To me ALL VETERANS are better people than the average US citizen. They gave up a lot more than nosotros volition ever understand. Some of them as well have some inappropriate behaviors towards sure situations because for their grooming, thus requiring a different than "normal" tactic in handling.

Some days I have more than "downward fourth dimension" than others due to medical conditions. Today happened to be one of those... Tomorrow may be a different story... Hows your wellness, perfect I imagine.....

At that place is some misunderstanding regarding terms. If your husband's canis familiaris is trained to assistance him with PTSD then it is legally is "Service Dog". An example of a "therapy canis familiaris" would exist a domestic dog trained to visit hospitals and nursing homes and collaborate with a multiple people.
As for your husband being improve than the average citizen, I detect that repulsive. Our country was founded on the principle that we are all equal. If someone does or does non serve in the military is really immaterial. Unless he is a Vietnam Vet or really old and served in Korea or WW2 he VOLUNTEERED to be in the military. While his service is noble, it is a choice he made. If he responds "inappropriately" to sure situations, he needs to get help and avoid those situations.
Apparently, there is much more than to this story than simply the park's refusal to allow your dogs. Sounds like a confrontation occured, and information technology was spurred past your husband. Was the park's refusal to allow you lot to stay based more than on your husband's actions and mayhap not so much nigh the service dogs?
You took me to task about how your service dogs are your pets, nevertheless you quoted the ADA statement that Service Dogs are not pets, guess I was right almost that. If you accept some knowledge of pending ADA litigation, then what? It is everyone'due south right to sue anyone about anything. Only when the result of the case is determined does it deport any legal significance.
As for my wellness, what difference does information technology make? But if you need to know, I either 1) take never been sick a twenty-four hour period in my life, 2) take age appropriate health weather condition or three) am confined to a wheelchair which would explain why I have some noesis of disability law. You lot merely never know
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QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Oct 9 2012, 11:28 AM) [snapback]31494[/snapback]
There is some misunderstanding regarding terms. If your husband'south domestic dog is trained to assist him with PTSD and so it is legally is "Service Dog". An example of a "therapy canis familiaris" would be a canis familiaris trained to visit hospitals and nursing homes and interact with a multiple people.
Equally for your married man beingness better than the average denizen, I find that repulsive. Our country was founded on the principle that nosotros are all equal. If someone does or does not serve in the military is really immaterial. Unless he is a Vietnam Vet or really old and served in Korea or WW2 he VOLUNTEERED to be in the armed services. While his service is noble, it is a choice he fabricated. If he responds "inappropriately" to certain situations, he needs to get help and avert those situations.
Apparently, there is much more to this story than just the park'southward refusal to allow your dogs. Sounds like a confrontation occured, and information technology was spurred past your husband. Was the park's refusal to permit you to stay based more than on your husband's deportment and peradventure non then much nearly the service dogs?
You took me to job about how your service dogs are your pets, still you quoted the ADA statement that Service Dogs are not pets, guess I was right about that. If yous have some knowledge of pending ADA litigation, and then what? It is everyone's right to sue anyone about anything. Just when the outcome of the case is determined does it carry any legal significance.
Equally for my health, what difference does it make? But if you need to know, I either ane) have never been sick a mean solar day in my life, 2) have age advisable health conditions or 3) am confined to a wheelchair which would explain why I have some noesis of disability law. You just never know

You seemed to have missed the signal completely most this postal service.....

I was asking.... Travelers with animals.....

Would you lot prefer to be fore warned virtually potential bug with your animals, especially in the case of MEMBERSHIP parks, prior to making reservations and or stopping at a park ? ? ? ? ? ?

That was / is / and ever has been the point. You lot sir / ma'am chose to attempt to change the bailiwick affair. I securely apologize IF y'all feel this "NEWBIE" has offended you in some way, nevertheless your hostilities over MY preference calling of our SERVICE ANIMALS every bit pets is truly some of the worst inappropriate and flaming beliefs I have experienced in my many many years as a FORUM PARTICIPANT.....

Adept twenty-four hours dear person.....
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QUOTE(Full-Timer RV'er @ October 8 2012, 10:17 PM) [snapback]31484[/snapback]
Your friend's girlfriend would need to be evaluated and take the animal prescribed. Each State has dissimilar laws in improver to the ADA mandate. Although y'all are correct y'all may simply take one fauna per prescription.

Just between us, I idea he was kind of a jerk for trying to go around the rules like that. Just since I was only a volunteer, I couldn't really say anything.

As for the g/f, she didn't have any disability...other than beingness with him.

Ane other question, if I may: Does an ADA canis familiaris (yeah, I know information technology's supposed to exist called "service brute") have to exist with the person for whom information technology's prescribed at the time it's doing something covered under ADA, such as being in a grocery store or eating place?

I ask because several times there has been a lady with a pit bull (official looking orange vest and all) in one of the grocery stores in town. Ane twenty-four hour period while we were all at the deli counter*, I asked her some stuff similar how sometime her domestic dog is, what his proper name is and what special talents he has and such. Come to find out, it was her mother'south canis familiaris and her mother wasn't fifty-fifty in the store with them.

That sounds kinda odd to me.

(*This is kinda gross, but while nosotros were standing there talking, the domestic dog had it's nose in the freshly baked baguettes that were merely in paper sleeves and not fully bagged. He was only sniffing and snorfling around in at that place. I don't buy those anymore.)
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QUOTE(GandJ @ October nine 2012, 12:50 PM) [snapback]31498[/snapback]
Just between us, I idea he was kind of a wiggle for trying to get effectually the rules like that. Only since I was just a volunteer, I couldn't really say annihilation.

As for the g/f, she didn't accept any disability...other than being with him.

One other question, if I may: Does an ADA canis familiaris (yeah, I know it's supposed to exist chosen "service animal") have to be with the person for whom it's prescribed at the time information technology's doing something covered under ADA, such every bit being in a grocery store or eatery?

I ask because several times there has been a lady with a pit bull (official looking orangish vest and all) in one of the grocery stores in town. One mean solar day while we were all at the cafeteria counter*, I asked her some stuff similar how quondam her dog is, what his name is and what special talents he has and such. Come to find out, it was her mother's dog and her female parent wasn't even in the shop with them.

That sounds kinda odd to me.

(*This is kinda gross, simply while we were standing there talking, the dog had it's nose in the freshly baked baguettes that were just in paper sleeves and non fully bagged. He was merely sniffing and snorfling around in there. I don't buy those anymore.)

This friend, friend's girlfriend, and store lady all seem to be the blazon of people kcmowdoe is all upwardly in arms nigh. People who know just enough virtually the law to by-pass rules, regulations, and policies. They "gray" surface area they would similar see closed through the Federal Government.

Now to reply your question. NO the "employer" must remain with the beast at all times when exterior the residence. The merely fourth dimension the "employer" is not with the fauna, outside the residence, is during the training process and this is done by a Licensed Individual who MUST provide documentation if asked for it.

Since you stated the animal in question was sniffing the food products in the area, this is the first sign this brute is NOT a trained animal. A trained animal will either sit or stand, depending on preparation, patiently until information technology's "employer" is done with the activity they are involved in.

The "very official" looking vest you said the lady had on the creature can exist purchased online at a variety of websites, the biggest existence of grade eBay... So having a vest or not having a vest is not always indicative of it being a prescribed service animal. Every bit with all loop pigsty type things, kcmoedoe is correct. There will always be someone trying to use it to their benefit illegally....

kcmoedoe - - I apologize for misspelling your name the showtime-time in my reply.... e & w are adjacent and since your name comes upwardly as misspelled either fashion, I honestly didn't notice it. My bad....